NF9K Monrovia DMR Repeater Talkgroup Configuration

Time Slot 1 Talkgroups

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Time Slot 2 Talkgroups

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Hytera DMR Connectivity – We have lift off!

The NF9K DMR Repeater is now connected to the Hytera DMR Network!  It is a bit different that the normal approach, however DSTAR users will find some similarity in how it operates.  I’m still doing some fine tuning but here is a quick summary of how it’s currently configured.

On Time Slot 1, TG #9 is used for voice traffic.  I completed two QSO’s last night.  Audio quality was fantastic.  One of the QSO’s was another Motorola repeater and the other as a Hytera repeater.  I was not able to detect any difference in audio between the two.

The Hytera DMR Network utilizes reflectors (ala DSTAR?).  When a repeater connects they are placed on a default reflector, however a user can change that reflector from a radio by using a talkgroup to trigger the connection.  Again very similar to the URCALL field in DSTAR.  Here is what is currently running on my repeater, again all on Time Slot 1:

TG #4000 – Unlink.  This will disconnect TG #9 from whatever reflector it is currently on.

TG #4601 – Georgia Reflector

TG #4603 – Texas Reflector

You simply PTT on one of the reflector TG’s and then switch back to TG #9 for the voice traffic.  The 4000, 4601 and 4603 TG’s are only used for activation of or connection to a given reflector.  No voice traffic crosses those TG’s.

Try it out and let me know if you have any questions/issues.  The base configuration as it is will likely not change much, beyond adding some additional reflectors.  I will post updates when that happens.

The magic sauce behind this interoperability is a linux application that bridges the two dissimilar networks.

Very cool stuff.

ARRL Technical Specialist Report – May 2015

Well, there went May…..

At the request of the users and repeater owners, a Facebook page was created for Crossroads DMR to allow for collaboration among repeater owners and users.  Facebook, as we all know, is probably the king of social media and nearly everyone uses it in some fashion.  Given its accessibility it’s an ideal platform for sharing information.

I received a comment via my website asking for some assistance in programming the Kenwood TK-981 for 33cm.  I provided some guidance on how the FCC channel numbers were used and then how to utilize the available tools to get the radio into the 33cm band.  I have a few TK-981’s and they are a solid 33cm mobile.

Officially received my repeater coordination for my DMR machine, which unfortunately resulted in a frequency change.  Now to schedule the time to reprogram the repeater and re-tune the duplexers.

Participated in a WD9BSA VE Testing session which resulted in two new Technicians and a newly minted General!

Answered some c-Bridge questions from various individuals and groups.  Some via third-party surrounding the addition of Motorola Capacity Plus radio ID’s to the database and another about c-Bridge remote control.  As is our mission, knowledge learned is knowledge to be shared.

Did a little experimentation with c-Bridge configuration and talkgroup activation.  In DMR you typically have two types of talkgroups.  Full-Time which is what is sounds like, a talkgroup that is on all the time.  The other is PTT or as some have started to call it, user-activated.  The latter requires a PTT or kerchuck on each machine to bring that talkgroup to an active status on that repeater.  PTT talkgroups are often governed by a timer, so once you activate it, it will only stay active for a set amount of time before going dormant.  Some c-Bridge admins have implemented a way to turn all PTT talkgroups on with a single PTT and likewise to turn them off.  This would give the casual listener the ability to see what’s going on an apparently idle repeater.  I’ll be working more on this as time goes on.

Successfully performed a c-Bridge inter-operability exercise with the DCI group where we liked talkgroups in a non-traditional way.  The process is called CPM or c-Bridge Peer Master.  Basically instead of using Control Center connections to link two bridges, you use a manager on each c-Bridge.  The advantage of this is that it can be used in situations where certain resources are limited and might otherwise prohibit establishing connectivity.  It was certainly a learning experience for me and I embrace any opportunity to take existing technology and apply it in a new and different way.

Worked with Mike, NO7RF, on some Parrot troubleshooting.  For those not familiar with DMR, a Parrot server is basically a simple echo audio test.  You key up the talkgroup say a few words and in a couple of seconds your audio comes back to you.  It’s a great way to see what you sound like to others.  Mike had ask if I would share the new Parrot server that I mentioned in my report last month.  I was happy to do so and once we got it setup, he wasn’t getting audio back.  I scoured my end, but was unable to turn up anything.  Ultimately the issue turned out to be a c-Bridge issue on his end.  So the Indy Parrot is squawking the great state of Washington.

As I’m experimenting with various software packages that run as linux daemons, I’ve discovered that I’d like to find a good way to tail an application logfile and have it output to a webpage.  If anyone has done something similar, I’d appreciate suggestions or information on how you accomplished the task.

Ed, K3HTK, received an email regarding Broadband HamNet which we’ve experimented with on and off.  Cory (KC9WET) seems to be off and running and has either done or is doing some of the things that Ed and I have played around with or talked about doing.  A potential new application would be to use that setup to pass IPSC traffic for linking DMR repeaters.  This could have great impact in a disaster area by allowing DMR connectivity to be established when other means may have been knocked offline by whatever disaster has taken place.  Additionally we plan to do some work with VoIP, the session initiation protocol specifically, to potentially have a PBX in a box that could also be rapidly deployed.  Certainly an interesting technology with a lot of potential.

After picking up a DMR mobile in Dayton, I began putting together what I’m going to need to interface it with a Raspberry Pi to allow for remote control of the radio.  The Raspberry Pi is uber sensitive to any voltage coming back on the GPIO interface and will fry a Pi pretty easily.  There are multiple interface boards out there that provide protection so in order to move the project forward, I’m in the process of obtaining one of them.  Luckily they run ~$15-$20.

Speaking of Dayton, Ed (K3HTK) and Eric (K9ZX) made the trek over on Friday.  By the end of the day, the dogs were barking and we were pretty toasty.  But it was a great day and while I didn’t bring home any fantastic finds, I did pickup a code generator to attach to my service monitor to generating PL, DPL, Two-Tone, etc.  It was nice to see a few familiar faces in the crowd as we made our way around.

The Naptown Amateur Group (N9AG) participated in the INQP again this year.  A modest effort on our part, but fun none-the-less.  We tested out a new logging application written by Ed (K3HTK) on various tablet platforms and made several revisions to the application throughout the day.  Ed originally wrote the app for Field Day and quickly adopted it for the INQP.  We also started looking into making some FD shirts for the club.  Since we don’t have many members, the cost isn’t the greatest, but I thought it would be neat.

At their request, I designed a new website for the Grant County ARC.  Feedback thus far is that they like the new design and hopefully through our efforts we can generate some additional interest in their club.

I received a request from the ChicagoLand DMR group for a feed of the EchoIRLP DMR talkgroup that I’ve setup.  I was happy to accommodate their request.

I think that’s pretty much it.  I spent a week in Gatlinburg on vacation the later part of the month and beyond mobile monitoring, didn’t do any hobby related activities.  I fully intended to stop by Ten-Tec and see the new facilities, but did not make it.

I’ll be travelling to Madrid, Spain in June on business.  Looking into the possibility of doing some operating there.  More on that next month!

New DMR-MARC Talkgroups

The DMR-MARC has recently added two new talkgroups:

  • UA English 1
  • UA English 2

These are meant the be used in a similar fashion as TAC-310/TAC-311 have in the past.  They’ve opted for the term User-Activated, hence the UA in the name vs. PTT, since technically every talkgroup is PTT-activated, because you have to key up your radio, right?

As a reminder, the wide-area talkgroups such as Worldwide, Worldwide English, North America, etc. key up hundreds of repeaters and the preference is to use them as hailing channels.  Once a contact is made, you can move your QSO over to one of the UA’s and only key up those repeaters that have “activated.”

The TG’s are connected to the Crossroads DMR c-Bridge and will be live on the NF9K Repeater by the end of the weekend.

Enjoy!

DMRplus MBridge

I’m currently working on a project that will bridge the MotoTRBO and Hytera IPSC networks.  Up until now, those networks have been incompatible.  You can read more about the software here.  This is an exciting project as it has the potential to bring together two previously incompatible DMR networks furthering the possibilities that can be accomplished with this cool tech.

February 2015 ARRL Technical Specialists Report

Happy snowy March to all my fellow Technical Specialists!

As I’m sure will be a big surprise to most, I continued my DMR exploits this past month.  First and foremost, my DMR repeater (441.025+, Color Code 1) was moved at it’s new home on the east side of Indianapolis.  The antenna is a 9dBi gain at 250′ and on an analog watt meter, I was pushing 25W into the feed line.  ERP was calculated at 130W.  I’m rather excited to see this machine at a higher profile and have been getting some good coverage reports from HT users around Marion and the donut counties.

Along with the DMR stuff comes my adventures into c-Bridge administration.  I’ve had to troubleshoot a few issues that ultimately were not c-Bridge related, but given that I’m still a young Jedi in the c-Bridge ways, that is where I started looking first.  It’s always nice when you can trace the problem to an external source and learn some new troubleshooting skills at the same time.

For those that are friends with me on Facebook, I posted a picture of a pile of Pick-Up-Sticks (who remembers that game?) and how it related to c-Bridge administration.  Every single change spawns multiple additional changes.  This past weekend, I was introducing Ed (K3HTK) to c-Bridge administration and the one example I gave him of adding a new talkgroup to the c-Bridge required ~30 programming changes to other super-groups just to accommodate the new TG.  That did not include the changes required just to get the new TG on the c-Bridge.  I have to say, it’s been fun, and I feel like I’m learning something new all the time, which is great!

I migrated the c-Bridge from a large server at my QTH to a hosted cloud-based server.  While the machine was quite resilient in terms of failure, I still had only a single internet connection.  Given the fact that more than just my repeater would be on it, I decided to go the hosted route.  I found a great deal for $10/month and they can spin up virtual servers in 55 seconds.  Pretty cool.  The migration process when quite well and was easier than expected.

Contacts were established with other c-Bridge partners including the NC-PRN network and MIT’s network.  While NC-PRN does not have any TG’s to share outside of their network, they have a great technical pool, so having someone to bounce ideas off of is always welcome.

I participated in a DMR Newbies Night at the IPSC building on E. 21st street on the 19th.  Due to poor weather we only had about five people not counting the host and the two presenters.  The evening sort of turned into a Meet the c-Bridge, which was a bit of a surprise to me, but I was happy to share my experiences as well as give folks a look at the mysterious inter-workings.

My membership was accepted into the North American DMR Council, which is a fledgling organization to foster communication and cooperation among the various DMR entities.  To say that there are politics in DMR is an understatement and unfortunately somewhat of a sad situation.  I’m just glad that most of it is hidden from the end users, at least at this point.

The Brownsburg Hamfest was held on February 14th.  I went out and made my rounds and did my part to support the Hamfest.  I enjoy them all, even the smaller ones for nothing else than an opportunity to get out and meet people.  Of course, the opportunity always exists to uncover a diamond in the rough on the tables.  Although this trip netted no such treasures for me.

I received quite a bit of communication from my website this past month.  Folks asking about radios that I’d worked with and taken time to write up reviews on.  I also received question looking for clarification on the various digital modes available to amateurs and how compatible they were.  Unfortunately, very few offer any interoperability, but it was nice to be able to help out a fellow Ham.  Another request was from a new DMR repeater owner who had not had luck contacting others for help.  I was able to give him some guidance and help him understand his options.  Lastly, I received a comment from someone who has been visiting my website and is now interested in getting his license.  I made some book recommendations to him and made sure that he understood that I’m available for any questions he might have and who knows, perhaps he’ll end up at one of my VE sessions!

A few emails were exchanged between other DMR authorities and I with Don West, who is the Communications Director at IDHS.  Basically they were looking to understand how DMR could function in a an emergency type setting.  We provided basic information and answered a few questions.  Not sure where that will lead, but hey, you never know.

My broadcastify feed that was originally setup for the Tuesday night DMR nets has been a hit.  A couple of times I’ve forgotten to switch it back over to North America after the net, and people have noticed.  I received a couple of emails from folks in the NE US who do not have a local DMR presence and enjoy listening to the feed.

Lastly I’ve functioned as primary net control for the Tuesday Night DMR net a few times over the month of February.  It was nice to see the numbers of people checking into the net grow each week.  Keeping people engaged in the net and keeping a round-table going has been an interesting learning experience.

Well, I think that’s it for February.  Looking forward to a break in the weather and perhaps the appearance of some spring-type weather.  While I enjoy the snow, at this point whatever else we get will be short-lived so might as well be done with it.

73 until next month!

Charlie Sears, N9MEW, SK

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Charles “Charlie” David Sears, of New Whiteland passed away on Feb. 25, 2015 at the age of 81.  He is survived by his loving wife of 57 years, Elfriede.  He is also survived by his six children, Jane Sears, Ken (Cindi) Sears, William (Shelly) Sears, Richard (Carrie) Sears, Chris (Jennifer) Sears, and Rob (Jenny) Sears.  He leaves behind 13 Grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren.

He entered the US Army after high school and learned radio and electronics, which formed the basis of his lifelong career. He served in Germany during the Korean Conflict which is where he met and married Elfriede.

Charles was a broadcast engineer for WTTV 4 for over 50 years, and worked for many other TV and radio stations, including the one at Franklin College.  He was a member of The Society of Broadcast Engineers, ARRL, and several other professional and recreational  radio and computer clubs and societies.

He was a member of the New Whiteland Christian Church for many years, and recently Christ’s Church.

Visitation: 1:30-3:30 Saturday, Feb. 28 at G.H. Herrmann Greenwood Funeral Home at The Gardens at Olive Branch, followed by the service at 3:30 PM. Entombment will be at The Gardens at Olive Branch.

NF9K DMR Repeater – New Home!


At 11:00am this morning, WA9FDO, N9DOO, K9DKC and I set about installing my DMR repeater in its new location.  It took us about 90 minutes to get everything put in, cabled up and tested.  This time also included relocating another unrelated feed line.

The 9dB gain antenna is sitting at 250′ and I’m getting 24W out of the duplexers, so that’s an ERP of about 120W.

Here are some pictures taken today and a new coverage map:

 


 

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Here is the machine and duplexers installed in the rack.


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Here I am doing a quick test.  Thanks to K9DKC for taking this picture without warning!


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This picture shows the location of the antenna (inside the red circle).


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This is what the coverage should look like.  I’m interested in hearing from you regarding its accuracy!


NF9K Indianapolis DMR Repeater Talkgroup Configuration

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January 2015 ARRL Technical Specialist Report

Well, 2015 is off to a running start…..

I’m happy to report that I’ve emerged with most of my sanity intact after going through he process to setup a Motorola Online Account in order to purchase the MotoTRBO (DMR) CPS.  I had to actually take a narrow-banding training course before they would grant me an entitlement for the 25KHz channel spacing in the software.  And then go through the whole process of getting my account updated to reflect said training.  But all is done now and I’m quite glad!

So the DMR adventure continues.  January found me removing my machine from the DMR-MARC network and joining with the DCI network.  Since we already have a high-profile repeater on the DMR-MARC network here in Indy and with the imminent move of my machine to a high-profile site only about four miles away, it just made sense.  Additionally, I’m all about offering up a rich DMR experience to Indy and the surrounding areas.  Assuming all continues on course, my DMR machine will be moving in the very near future to a tower site with a 9dB gain antenna at 290’….  Quite excited.

And with a new tower location comes…..  drum roll please…..  The awesome experience of performing an intermod study!   This particular site had ~99 frequencies and we needed to do runs out to the 5th order.  I searched high and low and could not find a decent free program to perform this type of operation on so many frequencies.  There were, of course, options costing several hundred dollars and up…..  At the end of the day, I received some much appreciated help from Jim Keeth (AF9A).  He was able to do some Excel magic that calculated everything I needed and had an output acceptable to the tower owners.  So hats off to Jim for the helping hand!

The DCI DMR network offers what they refer to as an Open IPSC (IP Site Connect) Master for people wishing to sample their network without committing.  This particular Master comes with a de-facto set of talk groups broad enough to give a prospective member more than a taste of what they have to offer.  So my repeater was joined to this “trial” Master and I set about reprogramming my inventory of DMR radios (no small task).

I wasn’t on the DCI network for too long before I realize that I was looking for something more permanent with a more customized feel as far as TG selection.  So I worked with Mike Shirley (NO7RF) and he built out an Indiana Master on his c-Bridge for those of us looking to join up.  Mike has been a fantastic resource and has been very responsive to requests/questions as I explored their network.

For those not familiar with Motorola IPSC, there is a hard-limit of 15 repeaters that can be connected together.  Two companies, BridgeCom Systems and Rayfield Communications have developed a software package called a c-Bridge.  This piece of software allows up to 45 peers on a single c-Bridge.

So I set out to acquire a c-Bridge and it was long afterwards I’d settled on their option for a virtual model instead of purchasing their hardware appliance.  So off I went to build a CentOS 5.10 (yeah, very old version) VM on VMWare ESXi.  Their documentation failed to indicate whether I should opt for 32-bit or 64-bit CentOS, so I went for 64-bit, which proved to be a mistake.  After installing the software package and attempting to start the daemon, it promptly failed.  A quick check of the log files showed some missing openssl libs.  Due to not being familar with their software, I was hesistant to upgrade the openssl pacakge in fear of breaking other dependancies.   At that point, I made a few inquiries and llearned that they are just now testing 64-bit.  So I rebuilt the VM with 32-bit CentOS and it’s up and running.

So that brings me current with the DMR techie stuff.  I now have the first DMR c-Bridge in Indiana and will be establishing bridge partner ships with NATS (DMR Core Talkgroup Server Project) as well as (hopefully) DMR-MARC and NC-PRN networks to offer a wide variety of TG options to those repeaters that choose to join up with my bridge.

I wrapped up January’s DMR efforts by participating in a presentation of DMR to the Michiana Amateur Radio Club in South Bend.  Tony Tolbert (W9AMT), Brent Walls (K9CFE), and Steve Jones (N9KYB) and I made the trek up north to present to ~40 people.  It was a great success and hopefully we’ll see a DMR machine pop up in that area in the not-too-distant future.

Ed (K3HTK) and I had a football/Geek out day where our major accomplishment was converting his EchoIRLP node from a micro-computer over to Raspberry Pi platform.  It was a great day, even if the football was a little disappointing.  I also sold Ed a DMR mobile to add to his shack, which gave me the funds to purchase an XPR5550.  Looking forward to playing with a new radio soon.  More on that next month…..

I’ve received some comments via email/my website surrounding DMR (I know, imagine that) and some future computer assistance to various Hams across central Indiana.

So I guess I’ll sign here and see about getting some French Toast supplies for Snowpocalypse 2015.

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